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Hi CL, if you think the concept of the Observatoire
Date: Jan 10, 2010,10:39 AM - (view entire thread)
is accuracy similar to a watch that entered an observatory competition (Kew A, Patek, etc.), then you completely missed what the watch is about. Like Adam said, there were never any claims that it would have 1-2s/week accuracy, nor did I specify that as a requirement when I commissioned it. Even your quote from Kari saying the watches are capable of this talks about the watches made for observatory trials, not his watch. If you were told otherwise then you were grossly misled. *Can* the P260 be regulated to keep 1-2s/week? I'd wager it can, but so can a lot of other modern movements. I think Adam nailed it with his description and that it's "romantic."
There's a more detailed back story, but the bottom line behind the watch is simply this: Felipe wanted a frankenwatch with a P260 that had better finish than the Be-Ba, and getting it tested gave it a nice story. The end. If you read more than that in "the concept" then I'm sorry to disappoint you. Going back to your original post:
I'm curious if owners of the Observatoires and Chronometre 27 have timed their babies?
No, I haven't
This watch is meant to be super accurate , maybe +- 1-2 secs a week.
No, it's not
So far the very few examples I know are far from this , within COSC, yes but not any spectacular timing.
That's what it was designed to do
Are yours that super accurate and , if not, does it matter to you, given the emphasis of the observatory movement for this watch?
Does not matter to me as long as it keeps reasonable time, i.e. within COSC specs, and that's what I asked of Kari when making the watch
I note that from a few collectors that they have not timed their watch, is it not important? I thought that's the beauty of having this watch.
Not to me, but watches are personal things so YMMV
Nevertheless, it is a super beautiful beast (too big for my wrist though)
That's why I didn't get teardrop lugs
There's a more detailed back story, but the bottom line behind the watch is simply this: Felipe wanted a frankenwatch with a P260 that had better finish than the Be-Ba, and getting it tested gave it a nice story. The end. If you read more than that in "the concept" then I'm sorry to disappoint you. Going back to your original post:
I'm curious if owners of the Observatoires and Chronometre 27 have timed their babies?
No, I haven't
This watch is meant to be super accurate , maybe +- 1-2 secs a week.
No, it's not
So far the very few examples I know are far from this , within COSC, yes but not any spectacular timing.
That's what it was designed to do
Are yours that super accurate and , if not, does it matter to you, given the emphasis of the observatory movement for this watch?
Does not matter to me as long as it keeps reasonable time, i.e. within COSC specs, and that's what I asked of Kari when making the watch
I note that from a few collectors that they have not timed their watch, is it not important? I thought that's the beauty of having this watch.
Not to me, but watches are personal things so YMMV
Nevertheless, it is a super beautiful beast (too big for my wrist though)
That's why I didn't get teardrop lugs
- Main Post: How accurate is your Kari Obervatoire? CL (registered) on January 7th, 2010-20:57
- I have not timed my Kari.... asg (registered) on January 8th, 2010-06:20
- I think I understand your view and .... CL (registered) on January 8th, 2010-07:50
- Shortly after I got it the offset was 2 seconds/day. I recently wore it for the holidays.. Ronald Held (registered) on January 8th, 2010-06:27
- Hmm...you may want to place it dial down to slow it down. CL (registered) on January 8th, 2010-07:49
- Yes the historical link is important, but... Ronald Held (registered) on January 9th, 2010-05:01
- Observatory competitions - not the watch but the regulator nickd (registered) on January 8th, 2010-12:16
- That's really interesting and insightful.... CL (registered) on January 8th, 2010-15:05
- My experience Gary G (registered) on January 8th, 2010-22:50
- Hmmm...is it possible that CL (registered) on January 9th, 2010-08:12
- Duirng the month of my trial... Gary G (registered) on January 9th, 2010-20:59
- Thanks Gary.... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-08:23
- Mine did go to Besancon Gary G (registered) on January 10th, 2010-08:34
- Very interesting...I had the same experience. CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-12:10
- Good question tahoeblue (registered) on January 9th, 2010-09:58
- Oh...another gentleman knows how much CL (registered) on January 9th, 2010-16:06
- Well said as usual my friend. [nt] tahoeblue (registered) on January 9th, 2010-16:54
- ACCURACY poseidon1964 (registered) on January 9th, 2010-18:00
- wow....so you actually keep track CL (registered) on January 9th, 2010-18:19
- f/u poseidon1964 (registered) on January 9th, 2010-18:30
- huh?...... CL (registered) on January 9th, 2010-18:57
- John - my friend… asg (registered) on January 9th, 2010-23:33
- One last thing… asg (registered) on January 9th, 2010-23:37
- Hi Adam... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-08:21
- One last thing....Rolex Kew A CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-08:24
- I concur schen (registered) on January 10th, 2010-13:03
- HI John -
asg (registered) on January 11th, 2010-15:13 - Thanks Adam.... CL (registered) on January 11th, 2010-19:19
- Hi CL, if you think the concept of the Observatoire felipe (registered) on January 10th, 2010-10:39
- Thank You Felipe..... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-12:07
- Sometimes felipe (registered) on January 10th, 2010-12:24
- 200% agree and I would love to learn that and ... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-16:14
- Somebody mentioned Patek? Talleyrand (registered) on January 16th, 2010-09:30
- HI CL, nwk00 (registered) on January 10th, 2010-10:27
- Congratulation.... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-12:15
- 3 more questions ztirual (registered) on January 10th, 2010-14:00
- My reply to you is very simple and straight forward.... CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-17:07
- CL, I believe your question is valid.. sidneyc (registered) on January 10th, 2010-17:50
- Thank you....I think this sensitive CL (registered) on January 10th, 2010-19:21
- Well said, Sidney eryck.su (registered) on February 1st, 2010-20:10
- I suppose that I expect better rates than I am seeing... Ronald Held (registered) on January 11th, 2010-05:43
- Helping accuracy jadewatchmaker (registered) on January 11th, 2010-06:25
- The name Kari is definiely on par with Dufour :-) CL (registered) on January 11th, 2010-07:01
- one more thing..... CL (registered) on January 11th, 2010-07:07
- Kari doesn't not think this is a problem if the rate is constant... Ronald Held (registered) on January 12th, 2010-02:38
- If it is constant.... CL (registered) on January 12th, 2010-07:48
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