DeBethune Factory Visit Part 2

Sep 09, 2009,05:54 AM
 

After a wonderful lunch we headed over to the main factory. The master watchmaker on site Martial is a man with great passion. He has an unbelievable amount of knowledge and experience in the industry. You have to speak with him personally to feel the emotion. It was a pleasure to meet him and hope to meet with him again! This building was owned by his grandfather and it used to produce music boxes.

We were welcomed with open arms and had unlimited access to everything in the factory. For someone that loves watches, this was a treat and honor. I can't express how much we appreciated this.

Bottom Floor where all the machining gets performed.

CNC Machines.

Parts that show the process from solid blocks to movement holders, cases, case backs, movements, wheels, hands, etc.

White Gold pieces that had an interesting finish fresh from CNC. It has to go through the Rhodium plating process.

Drills for the CNC. Unbelievably small units.

Plating area

Second Floor for polishing, quality control, finishing, inventory control, etc.

Hand Polishing.

Are you kidding? smile Amazing.

The employees were explaining that there is a standard to every single piece that goes into a DeBethune they must hold. For example if the color on the hands is not a uniform blue and a little purple sheen is showing then that piece must go back to get refinished and go through the blueing process again. This will happen over and over until either the part is scrapped or the part is what they can use. There are no shortcuts, not compromises. It has to be dead on perfect every time.

An employee finishing a ratchet wheel. My camera is not great so I tried to get as close as I could without bothering her. She was using 15 micron sandpaper from what I remember.

These old machines are the only ones that can help aid the technicians in their work. I love it.

Spherical moon phase indicators.

Blueing process at DeBethune. They use brass to spread the heat. This process is tricky because the heat applied has to be even or else they will get that purple sheen and not an even blue. It has to be in a controlled area with no wind because if the flame goes in a direction on it's own the piece may have to be refinished or scrapped and the whole process restarted. You have to appreciate the time that goes into each piece. Amazing.

Polishing Area

Using this oven at almost 700 degrees Fahrenheit the technician is showing us another blueing process.

Sand blasting area

Dream watch components. The red layers are a film to cover the area so it doesn't get polished/brushed. This is how they get the different textures.

I wish my camera did a better job. smile This is the Quality Control area. To the naked eye the piece we were looking at was perfect. But under 300 times magnification (i think, going off memory again. smile ) you can see little areas that need to be refinished. Nothing leaves the 2nd floor without being thoroughly checked over and over.

Parts for 10 movements. Well over 300 parts just for the movements. Every piece in these bins have been painstakingly carved out from solid blocks, finished, treated, polished, gone under QC, then maybe repeated the process again, measured, fitted, etc. It's truly an art.

By the way there are more parts in that blue box, this isn't all of them. smile

Parts bin for all the movements

Box of Jewels

Third Floor. Assembly

This technician was installing an stem on a gear train wheel. This process is just all feel for him. He started with taking the gear train wheel and positioning it on a stem. He then hammered it down but then had to make it so it would be stable inside the movement. So from his experience he hits it just enough to create two bevels, one on each side. No machines for this process but the final check was using some sort of caliper.

This technician came from the jewelry industry. The talent at DeBethune is something to see.

DBDigitale Movement

DBDigitale moon phase. The little holes are drilled in then gold is pressed into the dials then polished again leaving a smooth surface.

Gold for the moon phase

These are the push pieces for adjustment on the DBS. It would be nice just to have a tool with DeBethune but these guys give you a solid gold pen with the blued sphere and tip. What a nice touch! It makes sense though, when you spend this much on a timepiece everything must be perfect.

Hands for the DB26. These are sapphire hands with a blued ring around it. Also the blued points have to be pressed into the sapphire using a special glue. Just imagine how many of these are scrapped. Cutting sapphire this thin, then making it perfect as there is no tolerance. Then adding the holes and placing the metal for the cannon pins. These are just the hands! smile

I think I am going to own this soon. smile Similar to my DB 22 yet soooooooooo different. OMG this thing is gorgeous!

Grade 5 titanium fully polished. This is extremely hard to achieve.

Blue treatment for the buckle as well.

DB 25 Rose Gold. Gorgeous

Alessandro's DB 25 and once just assembled.

This dial is something to be seen in person. Pictures do not do this any justice.

If I do not get the 24 then this is the watch that I will add. This is perhaps one of the nicest watches I have seen (next to my 22 of course). DBS with Ruthenium finish. I don't know if that's spelled correct but I don't care. It's not Rhodium, you can imagine the conversation we had going back and forth with Rhodium, Ruhenium, LOL it was pretty amusing.

DBDigitale

WOW

I have never seen a DB 26 in person. It's truly unique. The way the lugs and case are constructed are mind blowing. A lot of thought, time and energy were put into just that portion of the watch. You can imagine the tolerance on something like this. It's made so perfect that when the lugs go up and down it doesn't scratch the case at all but looks like it's right there. Over time you can imagine if it were to scratch the case how bad it would look.

DB 15 ready to get assembled.

DB 22 on the timing machine.

DB 26 with alligator lined straps!

My DB 22 handled by Martial. I was telling him that my winding stem seemed a bit tight. Okay then, no problem. They took apart my watch on the spot, and changed a gasket for me. Talk about service. smile Now my DB 22 is even better than before.

DBL in for service.

DB 15 in for service. This one had a fight with a tile floor. Guess who won?

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DeBethune Factory Visit. Warning....LOTS of Pics!

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 9th, 2009-05:53
I feel very fortunate to own a DB22 Rose Gold. It's an amazing timepiece from such a young company. The company itself may not have much of a history YET, however DeBethune looks to the past to keep traditional watch making alive using new technology. The...  

DeBethune Factory Visit Part 2

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 9th, 2009-05:54
After a wonderful lunch we headed over to the main factory. The master watchmaker on site Martial is a man with great passion. He has an unbelievable amount of knowledge and experience in the industry. You have to speak with him personally to feel the emo...  

DeBethune Factory Visit Part 3

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 9th, 2009-05:54
After an amazing time at the factory we headed over to the R&D facility where we were shown the entire collection and some interesting pieces. DB 15 DB 15 Rear DB 26 DB 26 Rear DB 25 DB 25 Rear DB 15 Hands going over the Sphere DBS Black Nickel DBDigitale...  

Debethune looks very very impressive.

 
 By: ArthurSG : September 9th, 2009-08:23
What is the watch that is similar in case (less the bling) to the bling encrusted piece your wife was modelling? Thanks for this thread.

You have exquisite taste...

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 9th, 2009-08:26
it's the DBS and it's the one on my wish list. This one specifically....  

Just as I asked I saw Ed's DBS post.

 
 By: ArthurSG : September 9th, 2009-08:28
Do you know the case size and the retail? Do PM the retail if better. Thanks.

No problem.

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 9th, 2009-08:30
Unfortunately I do not know the price and case measurements. Your local AD would know for sure as the prices are different from region to region.

Thanks for this tour......

 
 By: roman : September 9th, 2009-11:48
of the DB site. Enjoyed the pics and writeup. It's a great thing when you can mix a vacation with your love of watches, and take the wife along too!

My pleasure to show ths to all Purists!

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:05
My wife is a champ. We had a one day visit and she encouraged us to do this trip. Thanks.

Wonderful trip report!

 
 By: Allen : September 9th, 2009-17:07
Thanks so much for bringing us along. I really enjoyed it.

Glad to have done so! Thanks. nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:05
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What an amazing and thorough report! Thank you so much.

 
 By: Ed Tonkin : September 9th, 2009-21:08
I feel as if I were there. David Zanetta wrote to me two days ago and invited me to the manufacture. Now I am really tempted to go! Eddy

Fantastic report about one of my very favourite Independants.

 
 By: amanico : September 10th, 2009-00:21
I'm really impressed by the originality, the design, and the finish of these watches. The DB 22, 25 V Trois, or Alessandro's one are really growing on me. And your post didn't help me to forget them! Thans for having taen the time to make this post, and t... 

My absolute pleasure. Pictures do not do justice...

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:07
You have to see these creations in person and they will blow you away. Amazing stuff.

I saw them, in the flesh

 
 By: amanico : September 10th, 2009-05:21
And still nowadays, I have to take my pills... Best, Nicolas

haha. nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:52
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Thanks for the report

 
 By: SJX : September 10th, 2009-01:25
Would love to visit myself one day. - SJX

My pleasure SJX. nt.

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:07
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Phwew!...

 
 By: pplater : September 10th, 2009-05:02
That is the definitive De Bethune report - many thanks! Cheers, pplater.

Thanks for the kind words pplater! nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:08
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the DB 26 just killed me!

 
 By: time2tic : September 10th, 2009-05:18
fantastic photo report. thanks a lot. this post is a dream post.

You have to see the Lugs in person. WOW. nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:20
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Enjoy! My pleasure. nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-14:11
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Thanks for the fantastic tour

 
 By: JerryW : September 11th, 2009-21:11
The DB15 and DB25 blew me away. Would love to see these in person someday. I feel like I have been educated in DeBethune. Thanks for sharing. JerryW

Fantastic tour, Thanks.

 
 By: VMM : September 10th, 2009-10:31

What a lovely photo report..........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : September 10th, 2009-12:31
Thank you for taking the time to post it. Out of all of them, my favourite is the DB15.

A superb and comprehensive report.

 
 By: foversta : September 9th, 2009-12:00
Thanks a lot for your feelings, your pics, your report. I really enjoyed to read it and I hope to have the same opportunity to visit the manufacture. Thanks ! Fr.Xavier

Really gorgeous watches. Thanks for the tour.

 
 By: ling5hk : September 9th, 2009-16:21
I noticed this Brand about 5 years ago. I see the consistent effort by DeBethune as evidenced by their stunning pieces. Regards Ling

It's only going to get better. Trust me! nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:08
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Excellent report A-T-W! =) [nt]

 
 By: DRMW : September 9th, 2009-21:22
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Great! =) [nt]

 
 By: DRMW : September 10th, 2009-09:33
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Thnks for this great report ATW !

 
 By: DonCorson : September 9th, 2009-23:26
Sorry I wasn't able to meet up with you. But it looks like you had a great trip. Don

Thanks Don, I wish we could have met up....

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:09
next time for sure. I want to go back real soon. Hopefully this will happen.

Thanks for the fantastic report...

 
 By: dxboon : September 10th, 2009-02:28
...and wonderful pictures of the various De Bethunes, some of which (the diamond-encrusted ones in particular) I'd never seen before. I would love to tour the manufacture myself someday. Cheers, Daos

Thanks for sharing this with us!

 
 By: Spiff : September 10th, 2009-03:59
Many thanks for all these beautiful pictures. It's a bit like we've been there with ya!

My pleasure! nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:11
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Superb report, thanks!! [nt]

 
 By: PS : September 10th, 2009-04:07
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My pleasure and thank you! nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:11
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What a treat ... thank you so much

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 10th, 2009-05:05
for this great post of your journey that you shared with us my favorite Independent definitely and the DBS and DB 15 are the watches to own and wear high on my loooong wish list all the best Damian

My pleasure. The DBS is sick!

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-05:12
Just an amazing piece. The DB 15 is gorgeous as well. These pieces are hard to wear as all you will be doing is staring at them all day. And not because of the time.

Invitation

 
 By: vianney : September 10th, 2009-06:09
Hello, While you were in the area of L'Auberson, you should have given a call (or an Email) so as to visit also La Manufacture Janvier in Sainte-Croix ! Maybe next time .... Your pictures of your visit at Denis (Flageolet) and David (Zanetta)'s manufactur... 

Thanks Vianney

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-06:25
We were on a limited schedule so next time for sure! Thank you for the invite. I admire your work greatly as well.

So near and yet so far...

 
 By: MTF : September 10th, 2009-07:43
Vianney, Last year, PuristS on Tour were so near and yet so far....... Maybe soon? Regards, MTF (Melvyn Teillol-Foo, Singapore)...  

My eyes went blur

 
 By: MTF : September 10th, 2009-07:48
AllThingsWatches, About halfway down the report, my eyes went blur with the strain! Thanks for the photo-tour.. Last year, we were so close and yet so far...not enough time. But I did get a music box from Reuge, to compensate. Regards, MTF

haha...I also picked up a Music box. nt

 
 By: AllThingsWatches : September 10th, 2009-11:40
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Thank you!

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : September 10th, 2009-22:14
I'm still drooling over the watches! What a treat to see the factory and all the beautiful pieces. Best, Jed

THANK YOU for the great Tour

 
 By: Tony A.H : September 11th, 2009-10:12
wow. this is the nicest Tour i've seen. i'm sure there was a lot of Emotions going inside of you while Touring.! and i also sense that there was some great VIBES in this Place ;0))) i'm in LOVE with some of these MARVELOUS Pieces. BTW. great Watch and a g...