I completely agree with you. However,...

May 07, 2014,19:34 PM
 

from PP point of view making new cases and fitting them with old movements is a sure money maker. When people snap up PP even if it has a disproportional dial, there is no reason for PP to change its mode of operation. That is why there is a group of PP enthusiasts - including me - who appreciate older/discontinued models, e.g. 3940, 3970, 5050, 5056, 5110, 5125 and 5127 to name a few, all of which represent excellent designs with regard to both aesthetics and right sized movement. The newer versions of these pieces, and there are many many now, are essentially all larger massive metal cases fitted with the same old movements. Now, new watch designs are all about larger cases and the same old movements. 


I predict some day someone with enough resources will take a new massive piece and create their own case and dial and post on this forum for us to see what an enthusiast really wants. Then, PP and other companies "may" - big if though - start offering this custom design approach to their clients. I brought up this idea at several PP events and to some ADs over the years and always got a unenthusiastic reply. How dare I do not worship PP ! 

Best

Jim
  


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Patek movements

 
 By: chris russell : May 6th, 2014-14:05
It occurs to me that, while Patek is updating the sizes of many of their new 3-handed watches to close to 40mm, they have not updated the movements to match. Thus their HW/small seconds models have their seconds hands snugged up close to the center, looki... 

I completely agree with you. However,...

 
 By: jimjenkins : May 7th, 2014-19:34
from PP point of view making new cases and fitting them with old movements is a sure money maker. When people snap up PP even if it has a disproportional dial, there is no reason for PP to change its mode of operation. That is why there is a group of PP e... 

Pateks getting boring

 
 By: tom2517 : May 8th, 2014-02:54
And I have basically lost all my interests for Pateks and turned my attention to independents.

I don't count Patek out yet.

 
 By: chris russell : May 8th, 2014-08:08
Patek has a wonderfully beautiful caliber in their lineup, employed in their 980 series of hunter-style or Savonnette pocket watches. On their website they call it 'Caliber 17''' SAV PS'. At 17 lignes, it's just a hair over 38.5mm and 3.8mm thin. It would... 

watch movements

 
 By: watch-er : May 13th, 2014-13:58
are somewhat limited in size by the size of standard parts which has not changed since early wrist watches of 30mm cases. From there the goal was to go thin over the years and increase the power reserves beyond 24 hours. All this resulted in standardized ... 

you have a point...

 
 By: sam1234 : May 13th, 2014-17:45
...but consider for a moment a comparison of 2 storied watchhouse, Patek and Vacheron. While Patek has chosen to recycle their time proved but diameter challanged cal. 215 as the powerplant for their Calatrava 5196, Vacheron has gone a different route ent... 

photos

 
 By: sam1234 : May 13th, 2014-18:46
Actually there's some excellent photos now on the Vacheron Constantin forum on this same site for anyone who's interested. Easier than a google search.

Not a bad idea to upgrade the movements...

 
 By: patrick_y : May 16th, 2014-15:25
You propose a good idea. However, consider the consequences of your idea... When Patek Philippe does re-design their movements, they will quite likely find methods to reduce costs, especially designing parts that require less assembly and finishing time. ...