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I think it's gorgeous
Apr 12, 2021,08:33 AM
The small second hand is better proportioned than it was on prior calatravas. It's a beautiful watch.
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Caliber 30-255 PS
By: lavrentivs : April 12th, 2021-08:25
I had to pinch myself to convince myself that I wasn't dreaming as I read the specifications: 31mm diameter, twin mainspring barrels with 65 hours of power reserve, finger style bridges for the running train, manual winding, 28 800 beat rate and most impo...
I think it's gorgeous
By: dhendolan : April 12th, 2021-08:33
The small second hand is better proportioned than it was on prior calatravas. It's a beautiful watch.
Fair enough, but the Patek is not hand finished, only machine finished.
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 12th, 2021-12:55
Unless something has changed, the advent of the "Patek seal" from the Geneva seal (the latter of which stipulates hand finishing to remove machine marks) meant that the vertical lines of machine finishing can be seen on modern Pateks from annual calendars...
I wish people demanded more of Patek, it would push the whole field up.
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 12th, 2021-17:38
Look at Dufour, the result of the hype around him has been to popularize better movement finishing in many brands. If Patek was held to a higher standard, we'd see better everything from everyone. We have only ourselves, but mostly other people, to blame....
The people who pay $150k+ are getting the nicely-finished pieces...
By: mdg : April 13th, 2021-11:36
...while the people paying $60k are getting the leftovers. 'Entry-level' folks are just happy to have a Patek. The guys with the big pieces don't see a problem. Sadly, I'm guessing PP is more concerned with the opinion of the heavy hitters and not the 'li...
I think that's exactly right,
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 13th, 2021-13:04
The upper level pieces are nice, but it's surprising how much people are willing to pay to get mid and lower level pieces which fall short compared to other brands.
Yeah thatās sounds like marketing.
By: Wristenthusiast : April 12th, 2021-18:04
If they upsized the movement to better balance the size of the watch with the movement ( something PP has been a little guilty in the past of doing š) and made no other improvements, I would think theyād get criticism for taking so long to do that. It mak...
I loved
By: Ed Watches : April 12th, 2021-08:52
everything on the 6119G! Gorgeous dial, hands, bezel and movement, all packed in ātheā perfect case size for this type of watch.
Feels like
By: chris7509 : April 12th, 2021-09:04
The white gold version will be mine ....
They were listening!
By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 12th, 2021-13:05
Use this power wisely! What will you Ask for next?
Every interior angle, rounded off...
By: BigFatPauli : April 12th, 2021-10:00
Haute de gamme? More like haute comƩdie. This is Patek, with Patek pricing, they really should do better when it comes to finishing.
As you said, the VC is superior when it comes to finishing
By: BigFatPauli : April 12th, 2021-13:08
both by practical measures (eg. interior angels) and "emotional" measures (the amount of hand finishing). A key differentiator is that I fully believe VC sees Patek and a worthy competitor. Patek, on the other hand, looks down its nose at VC. That arrogan...
+1
By: Francoamerican : April 12th, 2021-13:23
Very interesting looking movement.
By: ChristianDK : April 12th, 2021-13:03
I canāt wait to see more this. Itās usually worth paying attention when Patek launch a new movement as their R&D is oftentimes very thorough. Are the bridges stylistically unusual for PP?
I love the movement!
By: sham1 : April 12th, 2021-14:43
The design, the finishing and even the size but I wish they made the watch in 37 or 37.5mm. It is possible with a 31mm movement and a thin bezel. I feel the dial is quite ordinary and could be improved with Breguet hands and numerals or even Roman numeral...
i think the hobnail and bauhaus elements are likely incongruent
By: Francoamerican : April 13th, 2021-15:10
- the 5119 was cohesive and the 5196 is as well. Maybe the point is that this is pure patek calatrava and that the design purity isn't important anymore - my 11 year old thought the rose version looked very "old" She'd like me to get her the new steel ann...
See Iām the opposite.
By: Wristenthusiast : April 12th, 2021-18:09
I think it works when the lugs curve into the case. Some of the older calatrava that have lugs that just terminate directly into the case and have a hobnail, look ok, but the hobnail takes up all the visual. When there is more polished case around the hob...
+10000000
By: Francoamerican : April 13th, 2021-15:05
Waiting for a new '"5196" in G or P equipped with this new movement.
By: Grisar : April 13th, 2021-13:11
It has been a long long wait. Although I still prefer the bridge shapes of the old small 215, this one at least is bigger and the second hand on the dial won't look too out of place. Hope more nice references will follow in the coming decade.