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de Owar, I know what you mean...
I know what you mean about brands not revealing where components came from.. I know all 17 brands that utilise Vaucher for production but obviously cannot reveal most of them apart from the disclosed ones like Hermes, RM, Corum (golden bridge) etc.
Personally I find this practice somewhat disingenuous in attempting to weave a false image of "in-houseness". For me I have never hidden the fact that my watches solely use components and movements from the five VMF entities - Elwin, Atokalpa, Quadrance, LAB and Vaucher. For dials I use both Quadrance and another supplier, a small atelier that makes hand-painted porcelain dials for me.
Indeed I consider it an advantage to disclose this, considering their high quality. They probably have the highest consistent quality of any watch manufacturer in Switzerland & Germany, in line with other top marques like ALS, VC, PP.
The gold rotor auto (can't remember the Pf designation but the original Vaucher designation is VMF 4000) is one of their earliest movements, developed in 2001. The steel version in your watch is the industrialised version, introduced two years ago for Pf's steel watches.
I fully agree with you that the Pf701 (VMF 5400) is Parmigiani's best auto movement. I use it myself as the base for my ultra-thin perpetual calendar, and use a 22k gold micro rotor instead as I think it looks better with the rhodium-plated movement while giving up little in terms of density. The Pf701 is not just Parmigiani's best auto caliber but I think one of the best from Switzerland/Germany currently, equipped with the variable inertia (gyromax) no less. I further upgraded the movements in my own watches with the Chronofiable certification for even better performance.
Your watch looks great on your wrist by the way! 
Quick review: Parmigiani Kalpa Steel
This is a quick overview about the watch I've been searching for more than a year! All of us are in a constant quest for the grail(s), or onlywatch, but I would rather define this timepiece as a fits-for-all-occasions signature watch. (One might not wear ...
Neither PP nor Breguet ever used a Parmigiani/Vaucher movement
Parmigiani/Vaucher never ever ever produced a movement for PP, Chopard nor Breguet. You must be confusing hair spring and movement. Atokalpa (which also belongs to the group) produces apparently hair spring sfor PP and Chopard too. But this is not a confi...
OK, thanks for your reply
I should've written Richard Mille, Harry Winston and Hermés instead. I'll look after those articles, mainly written after visits at Vaucher in Fleurier, where this info came from. Of course little has been officialy confirmd. But would be also important t...
This is an interview with Michel Parmigiani
You're right, as for Chopard, production is not mentioned, just movement design. Vaucher is making movements for 15 brands, PP, Breguet are not among those, but for sure they provide for Hermés, Corum, RIchard Mille and Harry Winston. I've already seen m...
I think you can now remove HW as it was bought by SG...
In addition to your post it is also important to note that Parmigiani buys (and does therefore not produce itself) most of its complicated movements from Renaud Papi (AP) and Christophe Claret. Parmigiani often forget to mention this :) They even describe...
Swatch and HW
You just mentioned that HW was bought by the Swatch Group last year, sad news. But this is also giving more credentials for those, who remain independent. Isn't this sub forum all about them. What I really find fascinating about PARM is how they changed t...
Nice review
Nice review - the movement used in this watch is the industrialised version of the older Pf full-rotor automatic with the solid gold rotor (caliber designation escapes me now) This one comes with the steel rotor right? Vaucher does indeed produce for PP -...
THANK YOU BCHH
Now this is very clear now, at least as clear as this could be, with so many brands not revealing where components came from. You're right this comes with the skeletonized steel rotor, the solid golden rotor serves golden case models. While that golden ro...
de Owar, I know what you mean...
I know what you mean about brands not revealing where components came from.. I know all 17 brands that utilise Vaucher for production but obviously cannot reveal most of them apart from the disclosed ones like Hermes, RM, Corum (golden bridge) etc. Person...
Thank you again for the great insider info!
The term in-house, while being important, is totally overrated and misinterpreted. Great ébauches, with someone's own developments, personal additions can absolutely outperform an in-house movement and can add much more value, than using an unstable, unre...
I totally agree with you
I definitely prefer a real watchmaker who modifies and finishes an ebauche, rather than some fake in-house chicanery (a recent fiasco over a young brand's release comes to mind). Of the former category, watchmakers like Dirk Dornblueth and Pascal Coyon co...
Thank you!!
The case is very intriquing in the flash, as its curves are reflecting lights. I would discribe this case as a tonneau, but a very unique one.
That's the proper environment...
works particularly well with your shirt! Thanks for sharing, Magnus
