Didn't answer your question directly

Apr 18, 2010,08:59 AM
 

given my caveats above, I agree with Aurthur, Chopard LUC under Mr. K-F Sheufele, cares very very much about customer satisfaction and SAV, though how this translates to the field varies quite a bit. 

This personal "care" is one of the reasons he and Chopard LUC won the first PuristSPro Purity Prize 2009 click here

I would add AP USA - I know a few people who have had some problems (which service center or brand hasn't?) but for me they are batting 1000 (sometimes after a round of make good...  smile  )  I had experience or followed first hand in 8 markets plus HQ; the only one where I consistently heard about problems was Germany and UK - consistently heard problems but don't draw any conclusions, I am not surprised I didn't hear about no problem cases!

Richard Mille (again, it sometimes takes a round or two more than I would like, but given the highly technical and sometime just post-prototype level of complication of some of the pieces as well as the relatively smaller production scale, I don't find that so surprising or objectionable, kinda like I expect Ferrari and Lamborghini to need more work and care than Porsche.) RM USA and RM HQ try their best, is all I can say.

Patek USA in the past, but in the past year or two...

No personal experience with Cartier but anecdotally I've heard only good things.

GG and DR globally (I had experience or followed first hand in 4 markets plus HQ) when they were independent and under Mr. Gerald Roden was fantastic, waiting and seeing under Bulgari.

Blancpain globally because Mr. Marc Hayek cares, but regional experiences have been spotty and inconsistent until escalation. BP USA through their NYC boutique has been great, and Marc Junod cares, though actual work in the workshops can be a little unpredictable, but I know regional and HQ care so I can live with it.

GP USA used to be handled by RGM (and still are, I think) and were good. GP HQ was good though slow. I've had mixed experiences with GP HQ - some of the best if I had to get specific individuals involved, some frustrating probably due to a bad day and unlucky draw on who I got (this was several years ago)

The independents are a crap shoot, and you really are at the mercy of the head independent in the workshop as well as their mood, workload, and financial condition. But at least you don't have to go through "layers"

Svend Andersen - great service, but occasional a come back or two

Paul Gerber - one of the truly great watchmakers and truly nice human beings in this, or any other industry (finishing style may not be everyone's cup of tea)

UN - I want to say good things about them, because I know they do great work and have some great infrastructure and logistics in place to help ensure things go right and smoothly, but since I know some of their executives do not appreciate and take badly even legitimate reporting of negative experiences (with no intention of bashing whatsoever, just bringing things to their attention) I refuse to make positive comments either.

Hey, wait, I just did... smile

Vacheron - has varied over the years, and I personally know about mostly good experiences, but I also know about some dubious experiences.  With Mr. Proellochs I knew I had recourse; with Mr. Torres, I have no idea since he doesn't care about me or ThePuristS or PuristSPro.

Jaquet Droz -

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Which company in your opinion has the best after sales service?

 
 By: SALMANPK : April 18th, 2010-03:28
Hello All, Hope you're all having a good weekend. I wanted to know from my fellow Purists which firms provided them with the best after sales service in terms of: 1) Good network globally: where the work can be done locally within that country vs. sending... 

From my personal experiences

 
 By: ArthurSG : April 18th, 2010-06:07
Chopard LUC and MIH/Embassy. If there were 2 watches I liked equally enough and both roughly in the same price range and I could only afford 1, and one of them was from LUC, I would pick the LUC hands down. LUC still even if I liked the other watch better... 

+ 1 for Chopard (nt)

 
 By: happyguy1688 : April 20th, 2010-03:27
nt

It is absolutely critical to parse this out into different answers

 
 By: ThomasM : April 18th, 2010-08:37
Hi, Salman, SPECIFIC local service, which needs to be split further into AD vs factory service center and within this, specific individuals attitude of regional CEO/GM and their staff if they need to get involved attitude of HQ SAV director and his team a... 

Didn't answer your question directly

 
 By: ThomasM : April 18th, 2010-08:59
given my caveats above, I agree with Aurthur, Chopard LUC under Mr. K-F Sheufele, cares very very much about customer satisfaction and SAV, though how this translates to the field varies quite a bit. This personal "care" is one of the reasons he and Chopa... 

So in your opinion Chopard LUC.....

 
 By: SALMANPK : April 18th, 2010-14:14
has the best after sales service in the industry? Does it have the following?: 1) Good network globally: local Factory or AD service centers that can handle any after sales or customer service issue 2) Quick turn around times in comparison to others 3) Go... 

Salman, EVERY BRAND (even independents) have such stories.

 
 By: ThomasM : April 18th, 2010-15:14
I've resigned myself to 1. hoping that the probabilities are working in my favour, please please please. 2. hoping that escalation will result in someone who cares, sooner rather than later. Name me ONE brand that supposedly has never had a problem with S... 

very true...

 
 By: SALMANPK : April 19th, 2010-04:01
I've resigned myself to 1. hoping that the probabilities are working in my favour, please please please. S: I always keep my fingers crossed and pray for that LoooL 2. hoping that escalation will result in someone who cares, sooner rather than later. S: B... 

Escalation

 
 By: AndrewD : April 20th, 2010-02:01
Hi Thomas, I would be interested to hear what you think is a reasonable way to 'escalate' a concern. Few of us are well connected within most companies, or do not geographically live in an area that would facilitate this. Some try to leverage their concer... 

You are absolutely right, Andrew.

 
 By: ThomasM : April 20th, 2010-09:29
Here's one (of many) dilemmas. a person of principle dislikes unanswered emails and phone calls, even from unsolicited strangers. So he makes the time and effort to answer any and all emails and phone calls. This starts out beautifully, and all is well. A... 

Thanks. That’s a good algorithm.

 
 By: AndrewD : April 20th, 2010-16:52
You got my point and that seems a good approach. Finding the right people in the hierarchy of an organisation may not be as straightforward though. Ahh yes, Burial-by-E-mail. I know the syndrome well. I have developed a series of shorthand replies that at... 

Short of hiring a PA or EA to deal with emails...

 
 By: ThomasM : April 20th, 2010-17:30
it is simply physically impossible to stay ahead of 100plus emails a day, day in, day out (NOT including spam, of course; 100+ LEGITIMATE emails...) 7 days a week 365 days a year. Trust me, I've tried, for almost 10 years... And now that this thread is lo... 

Biting off more than you can chew …

 
 By: AndrewD : April 20th, 2010-19:06
Thanks TM. Thought you might enjoy a couple of images to finish off this thread: Biting off more than you can chew Chasing your own tail They seemed somehow relevant ......  

Anyone else but you, Andrew, and I'd think...

 
 By: ThomasM : April 20th, 2010-19:25
they were making fun of me. But from you, I think you are empathizing... Can't wait to meet in a few months. Cheers, TM

I could have posted this one:

 
 By: AndrewD : April 20th, 2010-19:46
Because this is how I usually feel. It was definitely empathy that prompted the images. Purists is a nice distraction from life's necessities, but balance is essential....  

To discuss further....

 
 By: SALMANPK : April 18th, 2010-13:50
Hi Thomas, Really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to address this, I'll continue our discussion by further adding my 2 humble cents to each of your points: SPECIFIC local service, which needs to be split further into AD vs factory... 

nein nein nein nein nein

 
 By: ThomasM : April 18th, 2010-15:50
With few exceptions (Haldimann, Voutilainen among them; in direct knowledge, Paul Gerber and Svend Andersen too but I've heard other stories...) many of the independents could care less about the client, they blow smoke up your skirt because they think yo... 

I've received several emails...

 
 By: ThomasM : April 18th, 2010-18:32
First, thanks for being considerate and not wanting to embarrass me in public. I reply here because I imagine if several people thought this and took the time and effort to email me, many more might have thought this as well but didn't or couldn't. S: "If... 

They have a valid point...

 
 By: SALMANPK : April 19th, 2010-03:45
Alot of experts do get it wrong however if the surveys are based on consumer feedback/data and not on "expert" opinion then how can the survey not be a gauge of general sentiment? If all rankings and lists are wrong I guess Harvard really isn't the No. 1 ... 

Thank you, Salman, you've exactly proven my point.

 
 By: ThomasM : April 19th, 2010-04:29
Hi, S, With all due respect to Harvard and its students and alumni, do you HONESTLY think Harvard can defensibly be titled "No. 1 University in America" and not get strong and strongly valid counter arguments and counter proposals? I know a few Yalies (in... 

Moser

 
 By: vernon : April 19th, 2010-04:08
Maybe not yet that well represented worldwide (yet) but very friendly, approachable and efficient when it comes to any problems and servicing - certainly in my experience. Vernon.

Thank you Thomas ...

 
 By: chiacn : April 28th, 2010-11:14
Its been a while since I read such an interesting post. Amidst all the nice photographs and write up, most people fail to realize that it takes more than money, or lots of money, to indulge in this hobby. Mechanical parts will fail, it's only a matter of ...