Silly yes, Beautiful...yes too!

Apr 21, 2008,05:36 AM
 

Firstly, Clang, I get this sence you are directing your comment at me smile.  Funny! 

John - When I was at at SIHH, I had the opportunity to spend about a hour with the 202.  Many Fellow WIS who i was with were making fun of me the whole time, But I was entranced and enamored with speaking to Martin and examining the 202 and the 201 on his wrist. 

First off, I liked the 201 better.  To me, 1.5mm is a noticable difference - not enough to deter me away from the 202, but enough to notice that I felt the size of the 201 was better for my wrist. 

Secondly, I felt that some of the beauty was lost in the 202 being that the "color" of the dial, in the PR indication was gone now.  I bitched and moaned alot about this.  IT wasn't totaly about the functionality loss, but the loss of the deisgn details which make URWERK so special.  You get it or your dont. 

The 202 does have this aura of specialness which, not a single other watch I saw at Basel or SIHH had. Period.  There is something special here with the 202, and UR's other watches.  I felt that the automatic watch was one which URWERK felt the market was asking for.  They mentioned to me that many people didnt like all the different colors on the 201 dial, and that the "oil change" indicator and "odometer" from the 201 were viewed also as a bit silly by the market.  These are two features which I personally loved about the 201.  So, I believe that there are 36 or so really lucky people out there with 201's who get to enjoy a true icon of design and mechanics. 

John, while your point is valid, I think you are being a bit sensitive to this.  There are a number of ridiculous complications, functions and designs which have come out of the fairs this year.....Concord, Maurice Lacroix, Hysek, Opus - what about the double tourbillon from Roman Jerome which has no hands!!! NO HANDS!!!! 

The Urwerk, while not perfect in this incarnation, is a truly awe inspiring watch, which, to me, encompasses all the qualities of a uber-mechanical timepiece.  Form, function, design, quality.  I personally think the on off switch was gimmicky and silly.  I told Martin and Felix this when I was there.  They didnt seem to mind as they truly love their work and their product.  So, I bet that a watch with a power reserve will show up over the next 24 to 36 months, but until then, you and I can gripe about the lack of a power reserve as a reason for not acquiring one smile

I think URWERK had a great persentation, the staff and team are some of the best in the business.  The gentlemen should be commended for producing truly facinating watches and for this I thank them very much! 

Be well and thanks for your insight always! 

Best regards,

asg


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Urwerk 202 criticisms/comments

 
 By: ei8htohms : April 20th, 2008-09:00
Hello All, I tend not to comment on watches that I find completely silly or uninteresting, but sometimes watches that are very interesting or attractive in some regard leave with me nagging concerns that I want to voice, perhaps in the vain attempt to giv... 

Thanks John.......

 
 By: CL : April 20th, 2008-11:06
I do find the design of 202 lovely too but I do feel the new auto function a bit of a gimmick. And honestly, does anyone will wear a 202 to do sport? Maybe driving around in a high speed Ferrari or Lambo ;-) Now I drool for a ALTin or TiAIN 201.........si... 

Silly yes, Beautiful...yes too!

 
 By: asg : April 21st, 2008-05:36
Firstly, Clang, I get this sence you are directing your comment at me . Funny! John - When I was at at SIHH, I had the opportunity to spend about a hour with the 202. Many Fellow WIS who i was with were making fun of me the whole time, But I was entranced... 

Hahhahaa....Adam,

 
 By: CL : April 21st, 2008-17:37

Good point...

 
 By: nickd : April 20th, 2008-11:14

Thank you John, ...

 
 By: FrancescoR : April 20th, 2008-11:52

is overwinding during sport really THAT big of an issue?

 
 By: SteveH : April 20th, 2008-13:25
Seems silly and trivial even with a power reserve indicator. It is cool and fun though I suppose, which certainly counts for something.

kind of

 
 By: ei8htohms : April 20th, 2008-14:39
Hi Seve, On many automatics, the rotor bearing and/or reduction train and/or reverser(s) and/or barrel are the first parts to wear out, so a good, controlled way to limit this wear is a good idea on some level. The problem is that keeping automatics wound... 

An eye opener, John.

 
 By: ling5hk : April 20th, 2008-18:30
If Urwerk accepts John's challenge, whether the turbines work as what it is intended, I take my hat off to our firends in Urwerk. Otherwise, I think the turbines in Urwerk is just like the turbine in Zenith. Regards Ling

How about DB24?

 
 By: Kong : April 25th, 2008-13:16
Hi John It also has a variable-efficiency winding (VEW) mechanism and no power-reserve indicator. Have you heard of De Bethune proved that their VEW worked? Kong