Thanks for your pointed remarks John...

Apr 21, 2008,11:39 AM
 

As it is, the whole technical deal of the 202 "winding retarder" is a little silly, as you say.
But I liked this watch more than all the others I saw from Urwerk.
I have to say this was the first time I had ever touched one of their watches.
This 202 seems to me to have the proportions right, thickness, height, weight, for me at least better than the 201, and those little turbines are neat to watch.  I would have gone home with the WG 202 in the pictures on my wrist, except that my bank would be making extremely uncomfortable noises now. sad
I unfortunately didn't record the name of the person from Urwerk I talked with in Geneva, but he is the actual movement designer working for Martin and Felix. 
If there is any truth in what he was telling me about the essence of the company and how they work we will be seeing continuous improvements in all their models, so I expect we will be seeing that power reserve indicator pretty soon.
Don


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 By: ei8htohms : April 20th, 2008-09:00
Hello All, I tend not to comment on watches that I find completely silly or uninteresting, but sometimes watches that are very interesting or attractive in some regard leave with me nagging concerns that I want to voice, perhaps in the vain attempt to giv... 

Thanks John.......

 
 By: CL : April 20th, 2008-11:06
I do find the design of 202 lovely too but I do feel the new auto function a bit of a gimmick. And honestly, does anyone will wear a 202 to do sport? Maybe driving around in a high speed Ferrari or Lambo ;-) Now I drool for a ALTin or TiAIN 201.........si... 

Silly yes, Beautiful...yes too!

 
 By: asg : April 21st, 2008-05:36
Firstly, Clang, I get this sence you are directing your comment at me . Funny! John - When I was at at SIHH, I had the opportunity to spend about a hour with the 202. Many Fellow WIS who i was with were making fun of me the whole time, But I was entranced... 

Hahhahaa....Adam,

 
 By: CL : April 21st, 2008-17:37

Good point...

 
 By: nickd : April 20th, 2008-11:14

Thank you John, ...

 
 By: FrancescoR : April 20th, 2008-11:52

is overwinding during sport really THAT big of an issue?

 
 By: SteveH : April 20th, 2008-13:25
Seems silly and trivial even with a power reserve indicator. It is cool and fun though I suppose, which certainly counts for something.

kind of

 
 By: ei8htohms : April 20th, 2008-14:39
Hi Seve, On many automatics, the rotor bearing and/or reduction train and/or reverser(s) and/or barrel are the first parts to wear out, so a good, controlled way to limit this wear is a good idea on some level. The problem is that keeping automatics wound... 

An eye opener, John.

 
 By: ling5hk : April 20th, 2008-18:30
If Urwerk accepts John's challenge, whether the turbines work as what it is intended, I take my hat off to our firends in Urwerk. Otherwise, I think the turbines in Urwerk is just like the turbine in Zenith. Regards Ling

How about DB24?

 
 By: Kong : April 25th, 2008-13:16
Hi John It also has a variable-efficiency winding (VEW) mechanism and no power-reserve indicator. Have you heard of De Bethune proved that their VEW worked? Kong